Curse

chris1234565 · May 18, 2008, 07:17 AM // 07:17

hi i have just found out about the trio but i have a problem i dont have factions so i cannot make the n/rt so can somone tell me a alternate to go with the ss and mm

note i only have proffersies and nightfall

Abedeus · May 18, 2008, 08:20 AM // 08:20

Lol. Nothing? You can do n/mo instead of healer and rt/n instead of MM... But it won't be the same.

Juk3n · May 18, 2008, 08:48 AM // 08:48

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Lol. Nothing? You can do n/mo instead of healer and rt/n instead of MM... But it won't be the same.

rt/n instead of mm?

bu7 h3 [email protected] |\|0 F@(710ns

- to the OP, i Vanq'd tyria before the Sabway necros were available, all it takes is alot of pulling and positioning of the HnH, and a couple of curse necros N/Me can do it, key skills were SS - Empathy - SV - Backfire, for 75% of the areas this is what i used.

chris1234565 · May 18, 2008, 09:00 AM // 09:00

so can you tell me the best heros to use and what builds coz not having n/rt healer is enoyin

SimonSez · May 18, 2008, 09:06 AM // 09:06

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Originally Posted by Juk3n

rt/n instead of mm?

bu7 h3 [email protected] |\|0 F@(710ns

- to the OP, i Vanq'd tyria before the Sabway necros were available, all it takes is alot of pulling and positioning of the HnH, and a couple of curse necros N/Me can do it, key skills were SS - Empathy - SV - Backfire, for 75% of the areas this is what i used.

That does'nt stop him from having Razah in his party.

Though some skills is only available in Factions... Just buy Factions

its good skillwise and PvPwise.

Juk3n · May 18, 2008, 09:14 AM // 09:14

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Originally Posted by chris1234565

so can you tell me the best heros to use and what builds coz not having n/rt healer is enoyin

the heroes arnt gonna do it for you pal, i could tell you what i used but it wouldnt help you - play styles n all that.

Ascalon - done all the portal connected areas together in 1 7 hour stretch, went from yaks to have a team of 6 ,

Tahlkora heal/prot hybrid - prot spirit / gaurdian and WoH are the key skills for her.

Olias With SS[Elite] and enfeebling blood are a must, then some dmg vs action skills like empathy and backfire and enchantment removal also do the business.

Mista whispa, i had him as SS aswell with shatter enchantment the mix of skills is really up to you but he could be an exact copy of Olias - both also had Signet of Lost souls, and both had NO REZ, i couldnt spare the skill space to bring rez on them..just means i had to up my game a little.

Alesia Thom And Orion were the henchiosos and it was very very very very very very very very long and hard but..if your good!!

all 6 man areas were the same set-up with a variation on tahlkora - Spell breaker for enemies who pack SS so i could hold agro

8 man areas.. dont make me list them all, you'll get it eventually

Introverted Dimensions · May 18, 2008, 09:17 PM // 21:17

i ran razah as rt/n minion bomber and brought aegis + prot spirit on my bar

mistokibbles · May 18, 2008, 09:21 PM // 21:21

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Originally Posted by Juk3n

the heroes arnt gonna do it for you pal, i could tell you what i used but it wouldnt help you - play styles n all that.

I've gotten vanquisher and guardian of Cantha using 6 heroes and two players. Granted, factions isn't difficult but in hard mode, it's actually a bit harder.

chris1234565 · May 19, 2008, 10:30 AM // 10:30

can i use that rt/n minion bomber using nf skills and will it replace mm

Abedeus · May 19, 2008, 10:58 AM // 10:58

HORRIBLE. Martyr - wtf? Plague Sending is also very bad. Divine intervention is maybe a ,,OMFG I'M ABOUT TO SCREW UP MY JOB'' button, but it's bad. Healing Seed, no comments. Heal Other? How do you heal yourself? Smite Hex is bad if you have even Remove Hex with lower recharge. Renew... Not going to dignify that skill with a reply.

edit: Wow. What a lame thing to do, remove post with a build that has been criticized.

Super Igor · May 19, 2008, 01:27 PM // 13:27

N/Mo instead of N/Rt - [word of [email protected]][dismiss [email protected]][remove [email protected]][signet of lost [email protected]][[email protected]][prot [email protected]][shield of [email protected]][heal [email protected]] here, that would work nicely, take the other nec as a bomber, dont bother with SS, just get some other hybrid character and give him [mark of pain] and [barbs], will be a cake.

Sethellington · May 19, 2008, 03:42 PM // 15:42

Above bar looks ok, but take cure hex and dismiss condition. in place of skills #2 and #3., There's bars on PvX wiki.

Abedeus · May 19, 2008, 04:44 PM // 16:44

Cure hex is gwen. But yeah, dismiss > mend ailment in pve.

Boren Supremecy · May 19, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50

he has to have GWEN in order to get 3rd necro so he will have cure hex available

Cathode_Reborn · May 19, 2008, 05:20 PM // 17:20

Take advantage of Soul reaping:

[skill]Shield of Regeneration[/skill]

prots are good in HM...

Belonah15 · May 19, 2008, 05:55 PM // 17:55

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

HORRIBLE. Martyr - wtf? Plague Sending is also very bad. Divine intervention is maybe a ,,OMFG I'M ABOUT TO SCREW UP MY JOB'' button, but it's bad. Healing Seed, no comments. Heal Other? How do you heal yourself? Smite Hex is bad if you have even Remove Hex with lower recharge. Renew... Not going to dignify that skill with a reply.

edit: Wow. What a lame thing to do, remove post with a build that has been criticized.

I deleted the post by mistake (proxy session issues). However I am just going to leave it at that, because there are people like you that can not look past the FotM builds on PvXwiki. Your comments is not even an argument, its something smelly dropped on the forum floor to prove your 1337ness. Looking back at your post history, you never have anything good to say to anyone or anything. All of them exhibits a sneering attitude. Please resolve your personality issues.

Now please then post one of your original builds so we can see how smart and uber you really are.

Super Igor · May 19, 2008, 06:28 PM // 18:28

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Originally Posted by Sethellington

Above bar looks ok, but take cure hex and dismiss condition. in place of skills #2 and #3., There's bars on PvX wiki.

He only has proph and nightfall, he cant use [cure hex] which is a GW:EN skill.

[mend ailment]....Oops, my bad, should be [dismiss condition], wrote it into the bar by mistake sorrys.

Abedeus · May 19, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by Belonah15

I deleted the post by mistake (proxy session issues). However I am just going to leave it at that, because there are people like you that can not look past the FotM builds on PvXwiki. Your comments is not even an argument, its something smelly dropped on the forum floor to prove your 1337ness. Looking back at your post history, you never have anything good to say to anyone or anything. All of them exhibits a sneering attitude. Please resolve your personality issues.

Now please then post one of your original builds so we can see how smart and uber you really are.

FotM in PVE? WHAT? And not all PvX builds are good. And almost none pvp builds are good in pve, expect for universal stuff like N/Rt healer, R/D scythe or earthshaker warrior.

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All of them exhibits a sneering attitude.

Agree, your attitude is sneering. You want an argument, huh? Okay. Martyr - heroes will spam this everytime someone has a condition, instead of waiting for more to pile up. Same with Plague Sending. DI has too long recharge to be viable on a hero. Or anywhere. Healing Seed - yay cast it on a 1st liner that is being hit by 1 monster while backline is being wtfpwnd. Heal Other - no energy for that, lol. Smite Hex has longer by 5 seconds recharge than Remove Hex and offers very little dmg. Happy now?

Btw, if something was a flavor of the month (God... check the wiki, it's GvG/HA thing, not for vanquishing), it means it's no longer viable, nerfed, unused or better alternatives exist.

@Super Igor - no, he has P + N, not P + F. With F it would be easy to replace the necro with a Rit, thanks to having more skills for the MM, with P + N it's harder. And I think he doesn't have gwen, that's why he has only 2 necros to work.

Super Igor · May 19, 2008, 06:54 PM // 18:54

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

@Super Igor - no, he has P + N, not P + F. With F it would be easy to replace the necro with a Rit, thanks to having more skills for the MM, with P + N it's harder. And I think he doesn't have gwen, that's why he has only 2 necros to work.

Ehhh, and wth you saying this to me? I know, and why replace a Nec with a Rit to minion bomb? Oo

I think you have read my post very....very badly, reread it.

*Edit*

Ah I see it now, wrote Factions instead of Nightfall oops, my bad, fix'd.

DarkSpirit · May 19, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Martyr - heroes will spam this everytime someone has a condition, instead of waiting for more to pile up. Same with Plague Sending. DI has too long recharge to be viable on a hero.

Martyr is not too bad on a hero if used on a 8-man team. Foul Feast works ok, but it often doesn't remove conditions fast enough so if your warriors are blinded or your casters dazed, you have to micro manage it. These are conditions that you want to remove right away rather than wait for more to pile up. Also for AoE conditions like Burning or Disease, Martyr is more efficient than Foul Feast.

Necro heroes have more than enough energy for a 5e [[Martyr] and it recharges quite fast. [[Plague Sending] is only 1e and only 5s to recharge so they are quite spammable.